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Post  steve morris on Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:56 am

Recently I’ve been working on a post for my website regarding my relationship with karate over the years. I had dig back into my memory for events that had occurred sometimes half a century ago that were very influential upon my practice and perception of the martial arts. I was looking up some books that I’d read as a teenager, and one of them was Jack Dempsey’s ‘Championship Fighting,’ which I’d nicked from my dad. I subsequently leant it to somebody and never got it back.

In the last couple of years since this text appeared on the internet, people have e-mailed me to say how much Dempsey’s thinking reminded them of what I’d written on my site, but I hadn’t actually looked at the book for many years. Michael S of this forum and some other Hsing-I guys seem to have been using this book as a kind of bible for their training, and they drew similarities between myself and Dempsey and also some Hsing-I masters. I got a bunch of You Tube subscribers, possibly off this connection.

Anyway, I’ve now read the book again online, and it really is striking how in many ways it probably formed the template of my thinking. I must have been about 15 when I first read it, during the period when I was teaching myself martial arts.

This really is a great book. Here’s a guy you’d never dream could articulate the dynamics of fighting in such simple yet precise language. It was very influential on me as a young man, and now when I look at it I see that it rings true with all my many years of study and practice. And even his reference to the ‘charlatans’ seems familiar to me! It’s all so familiar that it’s almost spooky.

All I can think is that because I’d read this book hundreds of times in my youth, it has formed a template upon which I built my training philosophy. Even his references to dynamite are similar to my use of the shotgun and Uzi.

It’s a great read. Read it. And to get it, read it lots of times. Watch Dempsey in action. This is a rare individual who could walk the walk and talk the talk.

Funny enough, my father, who owned the book before I nicked it off him, was very strongly influenced by Dempsey. Because Dempsey always went into the ring tanned and looking like a great physical specimen, my father always trained his boxers outside in shorts, so that when they got in the ring they were always tanned and healthy-looking, against a sometimes pasty opponent. And of course, the emphasis of the whole book is being able to explosively deliver that knockout punch. Very, very familiar.

http://stickgrappler.tripod.com/box/dempseycfbook.html#chapter1
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Post  Guest on Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:41 am

I have only read excerpts from this book and never actually purchased it. I have always been interested in it but it has been one on those things I kept putting off for other things.
I remember reading where he said that you wouldn't worry about being hit by a baby because of the difference in bodyweight. but drop the baby off a roof onto your head and it would kill you. (something like that).
That spoke volumes to me. Interesting guy and it seemed like an interesting book. Surprisingly intelligent.

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Ok...I didn't notice the link in your post. The book is right there and so is the statement about the baby !!
DUH!

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Post  Michael Siv on Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:52 am

Great book

I have the full book, as the book on stick grapplers seems to be missing the illustrations.

Will see if i can host it on a site so you can see the full book

I still read this book, and use it. I have moved to Muay Thai but its still the best written reference for me.

I still work on what Steve taught me, and the dvds of course.

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http://www.freecirclefighting.com/jdbook.pdf

There you go full book

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Post  steve morris on Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:13 am

Wow, really great. Those illustrations really take me back. Thanks.
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Post  bob on Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:28 pm

Thanks for the link Steve, what a great book!
I priced a copy on the internet that was going for $225.

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Post  Michael Siv on Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:35 am

A lot of out of print books are hosted here

http://www.scribd.com

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Post  PullupPastor on Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:00 am

Michael Siv wrote:

http://www.freecirclefighting.com/jdbook.pdf

There you go full book


That PDF is pure gold - i think it was compiled by one of the lads on this forum....


Very interested to hear he inspired you so much Steve.


When the United States entered World War II, Dempsey had an opportunity to refute any remaining criticism of his war record of two decades earlier. He volunteered for national service and was commissioned as a commander in the U.S. Coast Guard, charged with developing a physical fitness program for U.S. soldiers. Later, he served as a morale officer in the Pacific and in 1945 became a hero to many when, at age 49, he insisted on going into battle on Okinawa with a group of men he had trained.

Dempsey wrote a book on boxing, Championship Fighting: Explosive Punching and Aggressive Defense, which was published in 1950. Dempsey was also something of a cross-trainer, he wrestled in training camp and later took judo lessons. He later wrote a book on this, How to Fight Tough, which dealt with close-quarters combat incorporating boxing, wrestling, and jiu-jitsu.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Dempsey


Never knew he volunteered to fight on Okinawa..

Sounds like another goodun (heard of it but didnt twig it was jack!) -

http://www.amazon.com/How-Fight-Tough-Jack-Dempsey/dp/1581603150


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