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Post  SMUDGEPARA on Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:54 pm

Lee

Knowing your interest in the WW2 unarmed combat instructors i purchased a while back Jack dempsey book for the US Coast Guard during WW2 teaching them unarmed combat.
I'm great admirer of Mr dempsey and it is interesting read. have you read this yourself ? Any Thoughts ?
I also belive more specialist units in forces nowadays should teach unarmed combat. Apart from royal marines and UKSF they don't. One unti that should is all paratroopers 16 Air Assault Brigade due specialist nature of there role.This was always one thing i was harping on about while in the army.
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Post  Lee Morrison on Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:13 am

Hi mate
yes I've got a Paladin reprint of the Dempsey book you mention. An interesting read, though like a lot of the Wartime manuals it contains a lot of suspect application in a technical sense. With that said I love Dempsey, he was a tough man earning his experience clearing mining town bars as well as in the ring. I liked his mindset, one example being that he would come to a fight looking rough, unshaven and unkept even, just to add a little to that persona of not giving a f**k.

In regards to Wartime manuals I am reading one by WW2 CQB instructor; Hector Grant Taylor, sent to me recently by my good friend Phil M the Bristol Bloke, ''cheers Phil'' although this book is primarily about shooting, it talks also about methods for controlling fear, accessing the survival mindset and from an instructor's point of view, how to install a skill set very quickly. Evidence of early NLP and accellerated learning, and in 1942 that was pretty amazing stuff.
Take care Lee M

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Post  SMUDGEPARA on Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:54 am

Here short cut to info around these subjects stuff you already know but there other links on page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Municipal_Police
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Jack Dempey

Post  WhatThe... on Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:50 pm

I was fortunate a few months back to score a free download of a boxing manual penned by Jack Dempsey. Overall it is fairly informative, though parts are quaint, probably due to the time in history that it was written.

I’ll never forget the first time I saw film footage of Dempsey destroying big Jess Willard. It was the classic David vs Goliath battle, and the tenacious Dempsey just kept sending the giant Willard to the canvas. For a young boy the sight of this tiny assassin clobbering the brave, bloodied giant bordered on nightmare material!

Dempsey was certainly, by all reports, an amazing character. Early in his life he traveled from town to town in search of work. This included cutting timber, picking fruit, digging ditches etc. Even his early fights involved extensive travel in search of match-ups and a few dollars to survive the next day.

Once he reached the top, all the biggest money fights of his day included two constants – promoter Tex Richard and boxer Jack Dempsey. Dempsey was an extremely popular champion and became a big celebrity. At one time he actually shared an apartment with actors Charlie Chaplin and Douglas Fairbanks Sr.

After he retired he refereed some significant fights, and from the mid 1930’s til the mid 1970’s, owned a Broadway Restaurant called ‘Jack Dempsey’s’. Dempsey was also at one time a commander in the U.S. Coast Guard. The later heavy weight champion Max Baer absolutely idolized Dempsey.

Apparently the street Madison Square Garden falls on is called Jack Dempsey Corner in his honor.

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