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Post  sly fox on Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:49 pm

hi john
whats a mexican hook?

thanks
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Post  Joshu's Dog on Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:27 pm

ooh ooh, I think I know drunken

I believe it's a body hook to the liver, slight upward angle to it as well.
John Hackleman's favorite punch Very Happy

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Post  John Skillen on Wed Aug 30, 2006 4:43 am

I thought it was a hook thrown by a mexican seriously though - as i had'nt heard of it until you mentioned it. i 've done a quick search on the net and it is indeed a powerful hook thrown to the liver favoured by a few mexican boxers one such boxer named ZARATE used his hook as often as a boxer would use his jab. The mexicans historically have a very strong linage of hooking fighters tough boxers.
Our very own british practical martial arts instructor 8th dan peter consterdine trains and uses a very effective liver shot from a square on stance its extremely powerful and a sickening shot when it connects.
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Post  sly fox on Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:52 am

cool, thanks guys

peter very kindly mailed me info on zarate, sounds like he was an awesome boxer!

is peters liver shot a double hip?
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Post  John Skillen on Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:01 am

yes its a kind of a shortened version more square on stance. very close in. the punching arm is straight and angled upward into the body.
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Post  sly fox on Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:09 am

sounds interesting, painful, but interesting pale
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Post  Buster on Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:03 am

The mexican hook is featured on Rick young's dvd's the heavy bag and focus mitt training, it looks like an angled uppercut under the ribs (liver), ive been training it on the bag, its a good shot, realy makes the bag jolt, i presume the effect ona human would be very painful indeed.

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Post  Joshu's Dog on Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:25 pm

Hackleman says to watch boxing fights.
When a liver hook connects, it drops the fighter.
Either a knockout, or he drops to one knee.
I haven't watched all the footage he has, but he says it's consistent.
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Post  NeilJ on Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:31 pm

There is a Thai boxer called Eddie Mcclean (asterix gym) East Sussex, dropped me twice with his favorite punch - the naughty little uppercut to the liver. He favoured throwing it after every right hand punch thrown (puts you in an ideal position to throw it)



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Post  sly fox on Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:20 am

cool, sounds a good punch to work on..
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Post  the spaniard on Sat Sep 02, 2006 4:17 am

I think they call it in Mexico a funny name "Widow's Pain",short but intense. Smile

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Post  Ian S on Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:12 pm

It was a favourite punch of Gene Tunney's in the 1920s, too -- here's an article on it from 1929:

http://www.genetunney.com/magazine73.html
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Post  sly fox on Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:06 pm

cool...1929!
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Post  Guest on Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:14 pm

Bas Rutten always goes on about the liver punch too. I think he might be quiet 'handy' myself.

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Post  John Skillen on Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:56 am

I Really like the clips i've seen of his way of teaching, yeh he does look handy. Ther are some tough men out there.
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Post  Kemlyn on Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:46 am

This shot is a favourite of Ricky Hatton's(in fact I've heard him called 'The White Mexican' before,owing to his relentless,go-forward style).
On a slightly different note-if you get a chance to watch any of Ricky's fights(his best-of type DVD is good),look out for what some critics of his dismiss as his 'dirty' or 'Greco-Roman' style of boxing(LOL!).
Basically,he mauls forwards,driving his head into the opponent's face,bashes away in close with hooks and uppercuts to head and body while (often)holding and hitting(with underhooks,overhooks,front and side headlocks,armlocks even(!)),chips,chops and shoves with forearms/elbows,turns/spins/'snatches'down the opponent and a whole host of borderline(if you're charitable) fouls.
This old-school,aggressive approach(complete with kiai like grunts as he smashes away)is for me fantastic to watch and also a useful study in boxing/striking for MMA and the street(I like to blend ideas from his approach with those of Randy Couture's 'dirty boxing' style).
It's been said before that you could make a good 'system' by reading the rules of boxing,wrestling,judo etc.-and only using the illegal or foul stuff mentioned-have a think about all the dirty and dangerous stuff,it's illegal because it works!

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Post  Desert Rat on Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:27 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fewVrjYwKwM

Footage of Ricky Hatton KO's using the Mexican Punch alot.
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